panning effect question

[dkelloway]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5I_uOUOd8Q

how do you get that "around the head" pan that the horns give in this song? I have tried panning quickly to the left and right but it doesn't do it for whatever reason. Is there anything else to be done here with this effect?

[CuonG]

Not sure if this will work..just thinking of the top of my head...

Maybe when you pan from left to right, make the start slow and then as it get's

to center, speed it up and then finally slow it down again as it gets to the right..

..Not sure if that made sense.... good luck

[Castro Beats]

dk, hit me with an example from a song, might be of some help

[Last Ritez]

automated panning or look into the Doppler effect or Doppler Shift

[dkelloway]

you know how the horns are kind of panning to the left and right "around the head"

[Castro Beats]

Based on what you showed me there are two techniques that immediately come to mind. First off, a tape echo. If you filter your echo so the highs don't go pass something like 3-4K it gives it that sound like it's moving, it doesn't sound like a repeat because it's filtered. If you pan that to one side and possibly automate panning where necessary to the other side this effect can be accomplished. Another way and possibly easier would be a ping-pong delay or stereo delay. Something that utilizes the left and right fields. With the right settings you can make it play on side and have the delay/echo bounce toward the other giving it this swirl sound. In combination with panning you might just have what you're looking for. Using the LP and HP on the delay is a huge help by the way, in order to help give that bigger sound and less like a repeat filtering the feedback is a great tool. I hope this isn't too confusing, let me know if there is anything I can break down further.

[dkelloway]

Originally Posted by Castro Beats

Using the LP and HP on the delay is a huge help by the way, in order to help give that bigger sound and less like a repeat filtering the feedback is a great tool. I hope this isn't too confusing, let me know if there is anything I can break down further.

Thanks for the reply. This makes sense, this is what I did, i used that "ping-pong" delay effect, I think that I need to fool around with the filters a bit in order to make it "move".

[a pimp named kicksback]

you can phaser it. resonance plus panning migh do it too

[MidWest Authority]

well wat i do..if its jus a wide panned sound...on my fl mixer..i put the sound on stereo..but if its a physical motion other than a simple pan from left to right...then u definitly need to go thru your effects and filters...your answers in there...